BOO!
Not a whole lot has happened since my last update
Lilybelle's last pleading email was to do everything that she wanted to do this weekend, and none of that included spending time with her father. In response to that Jonquil replied with the following:
I understand wanting to be with your friends but you have spent plenty of time with them, and no time with family. My answer is still the same. Pick one or the other, but not both.
Lilybelle starts to get a little snarky here and launches into debate mode. Lilybelle's favorite tactic is to debate you to death so that you will give in and let her do whatever it is that she wants to do.
1. i dont spend plenty of time with them
2.its halloween, what is the big deal? not like you would go out trick-or-treating with me.. i would be with them for that anyways but then i can stay out later if i was sleeping over at her place. because the guys are coming out for us to hang out with them for the day and leaving later at night when were done.
3. if im out for the night and dont sleep over at [friend]'s then i guess ill be at your place later in the night when were done and the guys leave for the saturday.
4. on the friday, i might be sleeping over at [friend]'s house or [friend]'s dads house in [othertown] so we dont have to go very far then we just leave for [ourtown] with the guys for halloween. Ok?
--Lilybelle
I am not sure where she gets the idea that she would be able to stay out later. Jonquil very likely would have let her stay out as long as she wanted and picked her up when she was through. And of course he wasn't going trick or treating with her, Lilybelle is 14 years old, she hardly wants or needs her father to come with her.
Jonquil replied. I am quite proud of how he shuts this one down.
Pick one or the other. I am not going to debate the issue. If you can't pick one or the other, then the choice will be neither.
Of course, it was a fairly easy email to send because he was fairly sure that Lilybelle would just say that she was staying with her mom no matter what Jonquil said.
oka then. on frriday im staying with friend instead of at your placece and then saturday i guess i will be with you until later then me and friend and otherfriend are going out for ahlloween.. if not then i can stay at mos if it is going to be really a big issue for me to be with friends for a holiday.
--Lilybelle
Holiday? It is Hallowe'en, not Christmas.
There were a couple more emails passed back and forth as Jonquil attempts to extract information from Lilybelle like the address and telephone number of where she will be spending the night.
Lilybelle also has volunteering on Sunday, something I don't think she bothered to take into account when she was trying to make her plans.
End result - Lilybelle stayed at her friend's house on Friday night and is here with us tonight because she decided not to go out trick or treating. She is currently in her room, pissed off because Marigold "touched her stuff".
What amazes me about this whole exchange is that Narcissus did not get involved. It is amazing and creepy. She has been so quiet. There were some emails from Narcissus that started at the tail end of the emails with Lilybelle, but they had nothing to do with the weekend.
Jonquil,
On Wednesday at 11am I received a call from Marigold saying that two spots had opened up to see the Symphony due to kids being ill. She asked if she could go. The cost was $15. You at that time are unavailable for consultation and it was last minute. She had to know right then whether she could go. I said yes in the hopes that you'd be reasonable to the situation. Then after I made her a lunch yesterday morning, she informed me that they were to buy lunch. That just cost me $10. Total of $25 for that trip.
Lilybelle as a mandetory trip for [visual arts program] is going to the Art Gallery next Friday. Cost is $20 and the money is due today. I got the form this morning at 6:45 am.
Marigold has a trip next week and handed me a form this morning also. Concert tour of no charge to go but they have to buy lunch.
Lilybelle has a camp coming up for Pathfinders that's $50, money due next week. Plus the [Castle trip] of another $20 or $25 in January. Dont' know when the money is due.
So I sincerely hope when you read over this and you know your children and what they are like that you will see that A) things come up last minute that email to go back and forth is impossible and B) that $50 for both school and guiding a month isn't covering it either. Let me know how you are going to compensate and please talk to the girls about the procedures and I'm tired of getting the brunt of it. It's your responsibility too to tell them of "new arrangements" and that things like this last minute shit have to stop. Obviously Marigold's was very last minute and couldn't be helped. But the rest can. Please be reasonable and fair not only to me but to them.
Narcissus
HA! She is one to talk about fair.
Let's add this up shall we?
$15 for Marigold's symphony trip
$10 for her lunch which I am not including, and there will be $10 needed while she is with us this week.
$20 for Lilybelle's trip to the art gallery.
That is $35 put out by Narcissus this month for "extras"
Another $50 due this coming week, which is now into November. And $25 due at some later date.
Total over a minimum of two months is $95. Half of that would be Jonquil's responsibility. But $50 a month isn't enough? $120 wasn't enough either. Nothing will ever be enough.
No school trips are mandatory, but she could at least learn how to spell it.
So he responded:
I will pay for half of Marigold's trip to Symphony once I have been provided with a copy of the permission form. As she is with me next week, I will provide lunch money for the concert tour instead of reimbursing you money for her lunch on the symphony trip.
You currently receive full child support in the table amount for Lilybelle, plus a large sum extra, and the tables take into account school trips and extra curricular activities and so that extra more than covers my portion of her trips.
Permission forms are handed out well in advance of their due date leaving plenty of time to discuss costs.
And se didn't like it:
The permission form was already submitted to [school]. She called me Wednesday morning. The trip was yesterday (thursday). As for Lilybelle she was away when the permission form was sent out. She received it yesterday. The form due today for the trip tomorrow.
Even though you pay child support for Lilybelle which takes into account SOME of these trips it does not cover ALL of them. Not even close as far as what's in front of me now between school and Pathfinders. WHEN exactly Jonquil do you stop using that as a crutch for your financial obligations? I have [teacher] from the music dept and [other teacher] both preparing a list of all trips, funds etc needed for the remainder of the year. Lilbelle's Pathfinder leader has done the same. Hopefully that clears a few things up for you. And then hopefully you can enter the reality the rest of us live in. This is getting more and more pathetic Jonquil.
Ask Marigold if it was $15 and that I gave her lunch money since you dont' believe me. Or call [school] yourself.
Here is the thing. No receipt, no reimbursement. All she has to do is photocopy it. I wonder when she will enter the reality that the rest of the world lives in. You know, the one where she doesn't get to drive us financially underground while she lives the good life. I am sick to death of going without for myself, Jonquil, my children and my home so that Narcissus (not the girls, Narcissus) can live in the lifestyle to which she is accustomed.
That is all I have. Like I said, pretty quiet.
However, I went to the doctor this past week. I have been suffering in some pain for a while, turns out I have an ulcer. Great.
Doctor tells me that in addition to the medication she has put me on, for at least 3-4 weeks I am allowed to have no coffee, no tea, no pop, no caffeine, no smoking, no alcohol, "absolutely no chocolate" my doctor says, no mint, limit citrus, limit tomato products. I am sure I am missing something there.
It just sucks.